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Thursday, 4 June 2020 at 23:29
𗮟 [¹tshwi₁] 'to make dirty' is constructed from the surrounding part of 𗯌 [²tshi₁] 'smelly, stinking' and the left side of 𗟻 [¹phi₄] 'to cause to be, to make' {𗯌𘍞𗟻𘊱} babelstone.co.uk/Tangut/WenhaiL…
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Thursday, 4 June 2020 at 23:34
This is another example where the derivation (𗯌𗟻 = "to make smelly") is part of its definition in Sea of Writing: 𗮟𗫂𘀛𗗡𗯌𗟻𗅋𗑗𘘰𘃞 "... to make something smelly, to become unclean".
It is also another character that does not occur outside Sea of Writing and Homophones.
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Friday, 5 June 2020 at 9:43
@PhDniX Unusual, but not a one-off. We also have 𗧈 'to urinate' from surrounding part of 𗣪 'urine' and left side of 𗟻 'to cause, to make' with the definition 𗧈𗫂𗣪𗟻𘃞 "to urinate: to make urine" (this may be the shortest definition in Sea of Writing) ...
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Friday, 5 June 2020 at 9:47
@PhDniX ... *however* the right side of 𗧈 'to urinate' is our old friend 𗮟 'to make dirty', so a more plausible explanation for the construction of 𗧈 'to urinate' is that it derives from the left side of 𗣪 'urine' and the whole of 𗮟 'to make dirty'.
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Friday, 5 June 2020 at 10:00
@PhDniX It is important to realise that Tangut components are not radicals with fixed meaning and reading (like Chinese), but only borrow the meaning or reading of a source character on an ad hoc basis. In the case of 𗮟 'to make dirty' the left side of 𗟻 'to cause' is used ...
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Friday, 5 June 2020 at 10:09
@PhDniX ... but there is also 𗠦 'to feed with food or drink' which is derived from the left side of 𗠰 'to drink' and the *right* side of 𗟻 'to cause' (its definition is 𗠰𗡅𗟻 "to cause to drink and to eat").
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Friday, 5 June 2020 at 10:16
@PhDniX I would say that it is an obvious trap for beginners to fall into, but there are many respected modern Tangutologists who seem to believe in Tangut radicals with fixed semantics.
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Friday, 5 June 2020 at 10:38
@PhDniXM Yes, 𗮟 [¹tshwi₁] 'to make dirty' and 𗯌 [²tshi₁] 'smelly, stinking' are definitely etymologically related. They would also seem to be cognate with Loloish tshɿ³¹ etc. 'stinking, smelly' (stedt.berkeley.edu/~stedt-cgi/roo…), and cf. Nuosu (Yi) ꍹꅿ chypni [tʂhɿ²¹ ni³³] 'dirty'.